60 degree twin vs 90 degree twin...is the 90 really that much better?

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13/10/2006 at 16:42
Heard loads about how the 90 degree twin gives perfect primary balance with the power pulse etc etc etc. But since Aprillia seem to make their RSV-R and seem to do rather well with a 60 degree twin is there any real performance difference?

Educate me yow mechanical gods.


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13/10/2006 at 16:48
The KTM has a 75 deg. twin.

I find less engine braking than a ducati.

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13/10/2006 at 17:11
Well ok then.

Back to winding people up...


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13/10/2006 at 17:12
Irn Bru Freak wrote
Educate me yow mechanical gods.

That 998cc 47.5 degree V-twin from Stevenage is the best.

13/10/2006 at 17:26
that's a good Q. I'll get the popcorn in!

What's the angles in V4 configs?

And isn't there an engine (yamaha?) that has something trickery in the timing to be 270 (which is of course 90 measured from another point)?

And finally where's the 'degree' symbol on keyboard? Was abacus's last time I needed it.

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13/10/2006 at 17:40
editor wrote
And isn't there an engine (yamaha?) that has something trickery in the timing to be 270 (which is of course 90 measured from another point)?

Twas the TRX850 IIRC...Parrallel twin...with V-twin firing order...

The rest I have no idea.

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13/10/2006 at 18:12
i´ll stick with 48º

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13/10/2006 at 18:28
These days it makes no difference whatsoever. The angle between the cylinders has no bearing anyway on performance or power delivery. The only thing it influences is primary balance. Ducati use their fairly dated 90 degree twin layout as each bit of reciprocating mass cancels eachother out, although secondary vibration is left unchecked. Everyone else has joined the twenty first century and uses counterbalances to kill vibration, or tame it to the chosen level. The angle between cylinders being a compromise between the overall length of the engine and getting enough meat between the cylinders. The only reall difference is the firing order. Which is why I rather favour the parallel twin. All the performance charactistics of the allegedly superior v-twin, but alot more compact, easier to service and cheaper to build.

Or something like that.
13/10/2006 at 18:32
The Aprilia I had only worked for two months out of the six I had it. So I don't know, sorry....Fucking thing, rubbish .

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13/10/2006 at 18:41
Foxy wrote
The only thing it influences is primary balance.

What about wheelbase and packaging?

13/10/2006 at 19:05
FourTwenty wrote
That 998cc 47.5 degree V-twin from Stevenage is the best.


Best at what? Clutch slipping? Scaring plumbers?

13/10/2006 at 19:15
Foxy wrote
Or something like that.


FourTwenty wrote
What about wheelbase and packaging?




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