33 bhp advice on law

hello all!

this is my first post on here so be gental lol, i currently have a chinese gy125 which is pile of poo so i am looking for a bigger bike as i have now passed my test. i have spotted a kawasaki er5 for sale near me and am considering it as it will be a good first big bike and a solid commuter which is what i want it for.

My question is whats the deal with the 33 bhp the way i see it is that i have two options but i dont know if they are both legal and valid with the insurance

a. i could get the restrictor from F1 international and fitted at a garage which is gonna cost me 180 sheets.

b. i could get a second hand restrictor, fit it myself and then get a dyno test proving its 33bhp which will be a damn sight cheaper

am i allowed to do option "b" and what will the insurance accept? i have heard that if f1 international make a kit for it you have to have their certificate, is this true?

any help would be much appreciated

cheers

kev

welcome to vd

R1Loon is your best bet i am sure he will be along at some point

ok thanks dying to find out coz it kinda decides if i buy the bike or not!

I got mine fitted and certified by a dealer for peace of mind and I'm no good with engineering stuff. My understanding is that so long as the bike is somehow restricted to 33bhp, whether you do this yourself or whatever, then it complies with what your licence requires - a dyno is just proof of this. I guess the police could take it apart to see evidence of the restriction or dyno it. If you don't do it and have an accident you'll be uninsured and in a lot of trouble.

Bear with it, it's sweet when the restrictors come off, and it's like you get a new bike to ride!

It all depends on how strict your insurer is. Some are pretty lax and will take your word for it that it's restricted, others will insist on sight of a certificate.

My advice would be to have it doen properly, whilst it's expensive it doe mean that you are sticking to the rules and there's no chance of your bike not being restricted, which could invalidate your insurance.

Better safe than sorry, as getting caught (even if a genuine mistake) means you start all over again with the 33bhp 2 year limit.

Did you ever hear anyone say “That picture had better be banned, because I might look at it and it might be very damaging to me”

Why not buy a bike that's already been restricted and has the certificates to prove it? plenty of them around on ebay.

Or just buy a bike that only puts out 33bhp standard.

This is Bat country!

R1 loon wrote (see)

It all depends on how strict your insurer is. Some are pretty lax and will take your word for it that it's restricted, others will insist on sight of a certificate.

My advice would be to have it doen properly, whilst it's expensive it doe mean that you are sticking to the rules and there's no chance of your bike not being restricted, which could invalidate your insurance.

Better safe than sorry, as getting caught (even if a genuine mistake) means you start all over again with the 33bhp 2 year limit.

Fully agree with R1's comments that is the insurance side of it.

I've had dealings with prosecuting people who choose to de restrict bikes, its simple, it's no driving licence and if you have obtained insurance knowing that the bike has been derestricted when you apply for it then you could also get done for making a false declaration to obtain insurance.

Easy prove if it has never been registered as restricted the offence is absolute, if it has been registered then an examination by a Police vehicle exaaminer or AIB will prove its been removed.

In either case you get points and a fine, loose your full licence and have to reapply for a provisional. £180 should by now be sounding a pretty safe investment.

BloodRazor wrote (see)

What's this about "registering a bike as restricted"? Can i as a bike owner/keeper do that? Or is it the insurance company that does that? Also, who owns the restrictions database?