Talkback: Biker banned after 103mph wheelie

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19/09/2012 at 18:14
"He was banned for twelve months, ordered to take an extended driving test, and has been given a community order including 200 hours of community service."

Bloody hell thats a bit over the top.
19/09/2012 at 18:44
It's sentencing like that that makes your number plate fall off.

Totally over the top.
19/09/2012 at 20:05
try living is switzerland
20/09/2012 at 06:09
He was riding with his mates.
If the road was open and he was not a danger to other traffic... who cares!
If he comes off... he pays in skin and damages.

Too many rules in Britain
20/09/2012 at 09:41
Should have denied the wheelie and put his hand up for aggravated burglary or sexual assault. Would have got a lighter sentence...
20/09/2012 at 10:16
well siad the "speedfreak" pml
20/09/2012 at 11:49
'Wisneiwski should be thankful that he is still here to face a ban and a community order. His riding showed complete disregard for his safety and that of other people.'

WTF!!!? You'd think the whole world would explode in a huge ball of fire if a wheelie is pulled at all. Fair enough, he picked a pretty poor place to pop a wheelie and speed, but it's hardly the end of the world Mr Brown seems to think.

Motoring seems to be the only place where you are sentenced for what could have happened rather than what actually happened.

Graham
20/09/2012 at 12:47
Why does he need to take another test, pulling 103mph wheelie is a pretty neat trick and takes a reasonable amount of skill.
20/09/2012 at 14:43
Lovely argument people, let me give you an alternate view, like my mates 5 year old who is scared for life and lucky to be alive due to some cock pulling a wheelie and losing control, mountain the pavement and taking him out.
20/09/2012 at 16:36
and by the way, this guy admitted to dangerous driving which carries a minimum sentence of a 12 month ban and an extended re-test, you could argue the 200 hours is excessive, but that is the only debatable part of this sentence

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/dangerous_driving/
20/09/2012 at 16:37
Good point AFKAN.

He hurt no-one and gets a pretty tough sentence. The Police are trying to make an example of him to stop us doing the same. I don't think that I'll try the same past a marked van on the A63!
20/09/2012 at 20:50
What a joke - I had my house broke into - they nicked my car, lloaded it up with my 46" tv they ripped off the wall and more... trashed the car, even got caught on speed cameras over 60mph in 30 zone and they got nothing... no sentence, no costs, no driving penalties, just a suspended 3 month sentence.

This country is a fucking joke
20/09/2012 at 22:52
And now the votes from the East German Panel

Technique: 9.7
Artistic interpretation: 8.9

Sentence, they should have given the man a medal.

Wish I could wheelie like that...

Ah, Mr Stealth, I didn't see you there until you were gone.

21/09/2012 at 08:18
This is why I would no longer want to live in the UK, law enforcement priorities are all messed up!
21/09/2012 at 09:39
RIP Lukasz Wisniewski. Speed kills, right?

Still, you pull a wheelie past a scamera van, what do you expect? It looks like he expected that it could only record to the rear. Derp.

Of course the punishment is excessive, you wouldn't get that for kicking a granny in the throat.
Aki
21/09/2012 at 11:05
I would have given him the same sentence for his stupidity alone, let alone the actual legal implications of what he did.
We all know that we are made an example of when caught speeding, pulling wheelies, knee down round roundabouts etc so to pull one going past a clearly marked camera van is pretty stupid to say the least!
Aki
21/09/2012 at 11:08
Its not just us though, do you remember the guy a few years back in Oxford who was caught doing 172mph in a Porsche if i remember correctly he was banned for 3 yrs and sentenced to a couple months in jail?

In all of these types of cases they fine them heavily and then plaster it all over the news.
21/09/2012 at 13:48
If you're dumb enough to pull a 103mph wheelie past a camera van you don't deserve a licence.
22/09/2012 at 08:30
It is just pathetic to try and defend a rider doing a wheely at 103. He is not in full control, not being responsible and certainly not respecting other road users. The publicity does more damage than 100 other sensible acts by motorcyclists. Prat. Do it on a track, abandoned, road, back road, mates farm road, airfield. He was simply showing off anf got caught. Go to a track day and get the need for speed out there. We all know that we all at one time or another have treated roads like a race track, why because we can.

The van driver had no intent to injury, act irresponsibly or endanger other road users. And there is no real independent evidence to say whether or not he used his indicator, why he changed direction quickly, was speeding, using his phone. However in 2012 there should be no reason why a van, truck or car should have any blind spots. So you then strip the arguement "I did not see him" away. It would then be a different story. Fine, no license for reckless driving or worse.

The only valid example here is the speeding offence. One rule for wealthy car drivers and another for the biker.

It is fact that most motorists, courts and judges do not respect bikers. Every Bikerz moron just makes that situation worse. Nothing but continual responsible riding and publicity will change that.
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