somebody posted above link on another site , what your take on this ,
did the rider pull out without looking properly (*apart from being way to close to traffic in front )
Happened so close to the guy on the bike changing lanes that the guy in the car could have been in the process of moving into the middle lane at a speed faster than the biker and not seen the biker moving into that lane.
Close call. No damage done. You get at least one of those a day riding into London..
It seemed to me that he was toddling along behind the wagon when there were gaps he could have pulled out into ( in front of the other bike could have been a good one ) but as soon as the incident occurred he then went out into the outside lane and was harassing the car that was there to get out of the way, after which he accelerated to a speed much faster than he'd earlier been doing.
In the circumstances, I could understand any following driver not expecting him to pull out. Perhaps that's what the car driver thought. It would have been different if he'd been travelling faster than the wagon and just come up to it, I'd then expect him to be wanting to pass it.
Looks like the A2 heading towards the M25, London-bound.
It's obviously a busy bit of road virtually 24 hours a day, and to be honest, it doesn't look particularly busy at the time the film is shot. It's all flowing well.
The rider's problem is that he doesn't seem to have any plan in mind... he's wandering around in the lane, following a truck far too close where he can't see anything, and when he does change lanes it's a vague drifting - it takes him around 10 seconds to do his first lane change.
Then he sits behind the truck, misses a huge open space to move to the right again (before the bike goes past), then sits almost on the line and waits for a bunch of cars that are all too close together, then moves out again - at which point the Merc nearly takes his front wheel off.
I think the Merc has come from the lane on the left behind him. There's a black car joins the main carriageway @20s having pulled onto the dual carriageway at the previous junction, which the rider moves out for and then gets stuck behind the truck.
The Merc waits for the bike to pass, accelerates across the back of the bike whilst he's pratting about behind the truck, and into the lane to the right of the truck and bike, so that the rider finally gets round to passing the truck, he pulls out directly in front of the car which is headed for the same gap - hence the aggressive swerve round the bike.
The chances are that the rider has got so focussed on looking for a gap to pull out into (you can see that from the way he's sitting behind the truck) he's not actually looked to see where the cars around him are, and where they are going.
If that's the right answer, less like Murder by GKxx xxx and more like attempted suicide.
It's a classic illustration of why getting too close to the vehicle you're trying to overtake is a mistake (and it doesn't matter whether it's on a dual as in this case or a single carriageway). If you are that close behind, you can only accelerate AFTER you've changed position.
It's far better to hang back, then use the space in front of you to accelerate before you move out. Hanging back means you also have the freedom to watch the mirrors (BOTH mirrors) without worrying about running into the back of the vehicle ahead.
On a dual carriageway, that means you can match speed with the adjacent lane so that it's far easier to merge into a gap.
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Bike Breaker wrote (see)
I agree with everyone above.
Stupid rider is blaming the wrong person. I'd wager that they didn't even use their indicators let alone take a rear observation before their dumbarse lane change.
He has his moments doesn't he?
How recently did they pass their DAS/return to riding?
following is part of his post
not sure what sort of instructor, perhaps pushbike
and I do the life save evry time I pull out that from my 20 yrs as a bike Instructor
Agree with pretty much all said above.
The mindset of people like this who pot their videos on the internet fascinates me. In a watching a trainwreck kind-of way.
They must be really, really 'into' their riding to be bothered to post this, blare the horn etc etc. Yet the actual riding is what I'd expect of someone after 6 pints and a fight with the missus. I doubt most people who post in here will ever 'get' people who can ride like this without questioning thier own MO
FJSRiDER. wrote (see)
hextal wrote (see)
Out of random curiosity chaps - in the clip posted by FJS earlier, what would have been your courses of action.
Could you not predict something like that happening?
I'd avoid following in the nearside blind-spot of any car for a distance on a motorway in the first place but I would have presumed as I approached the slowed (or queuing?) traffic just after the exit that every vehicle in front of me might do something stupid to avoid it.
siwel wrote (see)
following is part of his post not sure what sort of instructor, perhaps pushbike and I do the life save evry time I pull out that from my 20 yrs as a bike Instructor
If that really is motorcycle instructor with 20 years experience he'll be the shittist instructor ever.
More like he passed his test 20 years ago, gave up riding for 15 years and has started doing CBT's as a down-trained grunt for a rubbish school and thinks he is some riding god because of it.
We all have bad days and make cock-ups, but posting the evidence on the interweb just so as you can blame the other person involved doesn't suggest that these incidents are one offs or that he's aware that he's at least partly at fault.
I wouldn't want him teaching at any school I was involved with, quite frankly.
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