National Escort Group - further skills?

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18/05/2005 at 14:18
What level of skills/training/riding ability etc is required for joining the NEG? Does it just require IAM standard, or Blue Riband, or Class one? They send a checklist but don't really indicate just how competent or good or merely excellent that you have to be. Obviously it requires slow speed skills, and a general all round ability, but are there other specific aspects that should be brushed up on? And so who can provide such brushing up?

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18/05/2005 at 14:37
hawker wrote
What level of skills/training/riding ability etc is required for joining the NEG? Does it just require IAM standard, or Blue Riband, or Class one?


Hmmm . . . well, they let Spin in

Wait for him to answer

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18/05/2005 at 14:56
18/05/2005 at 15:06
Looks like class one or similar then. The information that I have already received didn't tell as much as bobby's site.

Thanks.

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18/05/2005 at 15:51
hawker wrote
Looks like class one or similar then.


Oh no. Oh no no no no, NO!

FFS don't let Spin see that comment or he'll be posting it in to the 'Class One' thread . . .


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18/05/2005 at 17:18
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FFS don't let Spin see that comment or he'll be posting it in to the 'Class One' thread . . .


LOL

Riding assessment is required... decent, reasonably advanced standard is good enough... the difficult bit is adapting to riding at 12mph up a hill and 30m later accelerating to 55 down it...

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18/05/2005 at 21:14
The Spin Doctor wrote

the difficult bit is adapting to riding at 12mph up a hill and 30m later accelerating to 55 down it...



What's hard about that? Any LE rider can do that. In fact, it's compulsory.

Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
18/05/2005 at 22:38
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Hmmm . . . well, they let Spin in


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Riding assessment is required


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What's hard about that?


What are you talking about????

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19/05/2005 at 06:21
Scarver wrote
What are you talking about????

:burnout:


Oh dear!

It was a joke.

My little motorcycle only goes 12mph up steep hills but can get up to 55mph downhill. Therefore, if I can do it, it can't be hard, can it?

On second thoughts, yes, it's really diffficult and I'm a riding god.

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19/05/2005 at 08:06
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On second thoughts, yes, it's really diffficult and I'm a riding god.


You sure the LE doesn't have pedals?

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19/05/2005 at 12:30
The Spin Doctor wrote
You sure the LE doesn't have pedals?


No, they'd interfere with the running boards. And I couldn't cope with the extra Velocettie.

Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
19/05/2005 at 15:16
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NEG members may also be engaged by the race organiser or media companies to carry press photographers or cameramen as a pilot for pillion passengers. In such a case, where the NEG member has been engaged by a media or TV company, they may reasonably expect this company to provide a risk assessment of the duties required of the pilot.


Which means you get some muppet sitting backwards on your pillion seat, standing up or leaning right over to get the best angles, as well as the joys of muppet spectators leaping out into the road as you tackle a 25% gradient at walking pace.

Couple that with the car drivers who ignore the 'pull over' requests and head straight for you or the bunch, and its one job I'd pass on.

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19/05/2005 at 16:17
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Couple that with the car drivers who ignore the 'pull over' requests and head straight for you or the bunch, and its one job I'd pass on.


I think you'd find a full police presence on that sort of race, with a full rolling road closure.

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19/05/2005 at 16:38
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Oh dear! It was a joke.


Perhaps I should've said fnaar, fnaar.

Well, I was tired.

19/05/2005 at 16:43
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Well, I was tired.


Don't give up your day job

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19/05/2005 at 17:16
The Spin Doctor wrote
I think you'd find a full police presence on that sort of race, with a full rolling road closure.


Doesn't always work, either here or on the continent. I've know of (cycle) riders who've been killed or injured by such muppets - including one World Champion who was killed the year after winning the title at Mallory Park back in the 70s.

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19/05/2005 at 17:44
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Doesn't always work, either here or on the continent. I've know of (cycle) riders who've been killed or injured by such muppets - including one World Champion who was killed the year after winning the title at Mallory Park back in the 70s.


I know... I've been following cycle racing for many years... there was a high profile crash on the Kelloggs about 10 years ago, which was captured on helicopter TV coverage...

But in general the rolling road closure system works pretty well...

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19/05/2005 at 18:55
Spooky...

Just got a call from the organiser of a cycle race series to do a bunch of dates here in Kent in the next four months. Excellent

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19/05/2005 at 21:21
Dingbat wrote
Doesn't always work, either here or on the continent. I've know of (cycle) riders who've been killed or injured by such muppets - including one World Champion who was killed the year after winning the title at Mallory Park back in the 70s.



Not so much of a problem at our local races. You tend to only get wives and girlfirends (sometimes both), relations, plus perhaps a man walking his dog as the main spectators. If it is a local championship we might get, ooh let's see, a hundred people or so round the course and they tend not to be numbnutts but are fully aware of the high speed cycle racing can involve.

Joking apart though, the biggest hazard for the riders and the marshalls are the impatient bast*rds in cars who can't tolerate the maybe five minutes delay to their journey that a bike race might cause, and cut in and out of the bunch in the race, and can cut the m'bike marshall up as well.
They are obviously fully qualified Arseholes.

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20/05/2005 at 07:25
hawker wrote
the biggest hazard for the riders and the marshalls are the impatient bast*rds in cars who can't tolerate the maybe five minutes delay to their journey that a bike race might cause


on the other hand, the car drivers have every right to be there as it's not a closed road, and tbh, there's nothing worse than an bunch of arrogant cyclists who think they are better than everyone else (because they're cyclists), which therefor gives them the right to ride 3 or 4 abreast and make it hard for everyone else.

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