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"Force has no place where there is need of skill" Herodotus 450BC :burnout:
The vast majority lived within 20 miles of the crash
Porks, what's really depressing is that the majority of these fatalities could have been avoided, Better training, better attitude would result in an 80% or even 90% reduction in fatalities. ...How can we reach out to the riders for whom biking is a fashion accessory?
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They're adults. If they want to kill or maim themselves in matching leathers, who are we to stop them?
Some will make it. Some won't. You could call it natural selection. You could call it a lack of predator awareness - some bikers don't realise they are their own enemy. It aint the bike, we know that, as the old saying goes 'the throttle works both ways'It could be said that if the majority of those who didn't make it didn't get on a bike they might still be here, but what we are dealing with are folk who obviously have no sense of self preservation or folk who go against everything they have been taught and act foolishly or ride beyond their limits. Who's responsibility is it to usher adults through life?
I'd love to see a bike mag being published monthly which is aimed directly at new riders with sensible articles and good advice.
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... You can't have your cake and eat it.
If we look at it from a miltary point of view - Soldiers are trained to survive - they recieve the highest levels of survival and combat training available and get to use the latest technology to help them stay alive and defeat the enemy. However throughout history there have always been in times of stress gungho warriors running into battle for the glory and these are often the first to get torn down by enemy fire, better to stay in the rear with the gear if you wanna see it through..
Worldwide 11 million kids died last year from poverty through no fault of their own. So I'm sorry but I just can't get emotional or political about a handful of riders who choose to ride and end up dead.
Unfortunately nobody (well hardly anybody) would buy it. Or at least the publishers wouldn't take the risk. Even those mags that used to be sensible (eg MCS) just follow the herd now.
Nil Satis Nisi OptimumHalf of what I say is meaningless.
Interesting analysis of fault... bends, overtaking as usual... Any idea where the 4 fatal junction accidents happened? Were they faster, country roads?That's also interesting... so almost certainly on roads they knew well...
I remember an article in Bike Magazine many years ago that dealt with this very issue. It was saying that the manufacturers have a vested interest in skirting around the safety issue and appeared around the time that compulsory leg shields werebeing proposed..
Porks, what's really depressing is that the majority of these fatalities could have been avoided, Better training, better attitude would result in an 80% or even 90% reduction in fatalities. At my IAM group, the people we get joining are the ones that are less likely to become a statistic - they're the the more sensible ones.How can we reach out to the riders for whom biking is a fashion accessory?
Edit: just to prove I'm a total hypcrote, I'm upgrading from a CB500 to a VFR750 midweek:burnout::burnout::burnout:
Trouble with bikes though is the 'average user' is a GSXR rider on a weekend hoon. Was in a local bike dealership on Saturday and saw new biker who hadn't passed DAS yet insisting he needed an R1 - sales bloke naturally didn't argue. Instead gave him mock-serious advice about practicing accelerating in a carpark so the wheelie wouldn't take him by surprise.k:burnout::burnout::burnout:
Do you have any statistics to back this up? Anecdotally I see far more bikers on tourers than on sports bikes, and the accident statistics seem to over represent the 40+ age group, who possibly aren't as attracted to shiny plastic supersports.
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