hill crest

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18/11/2010 at 19:08

Hello Everyone, just wondered what people thought was the correct position when approaching a hill crest that you cannot see over Some IAM people i know think you should be in the middle of your side of the road but i have read that you should be right over to the left in case somebody is overtaking coming towards you. Any thoughts would be welcome.

 Would you fail the iam test and dsa test if you were in the wrong position

Many Thanks

 Stuart

18/11/2010 at 20:35
I wouldn't know about tests, but I'd be in the middle of my lane ready to swerve to the left if someone appeared in front of me.

Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
19/11/2010 at 08:35
pingpongman wrote (see)

i have read that you should be right over to the left in case somebody is overtaking coming towards you. Any thoughts would be welcome.


What if there is a car parked at the side of the road just over the crest?
19/11/2010 at 11:25

In the last few years I've come over blind crests to see:

1) a car turning right across my path at a cross roads

2) a tractor stopped waiting to turn right in my lane 

3) a car doing a U turn

4) an articulated lorry reversing into a driveway 

5) a car overtaking a coach

6) two motorcycles overtaking another bike

7) a column of ramblers crossing the road from one footpath to another

8) sheep

9) cows

10) geese 

Like any hazard you have to weigh up three things:

- what you CAN see

- what you CANNOT see

- what you can reasonably EXPECT to happen

How deep is the dip? Can you see the road beyond it? Are there any indications there might be a turning? Is it a rural area or is it in town? 

Work out what MIGHT go wrong, then try to ask "how likely is it?"

If you're in the middle of a city, a pedestrian crossing the road, a parked car  or someone turning at a junction or into a driveway is quite likely. If it's the middle of the country, then think about  rural hazards like a tractor, animals or ramblers.

Then position accordingly.

There's no one answer that's right.

And you haven't forgotten that the key ingredient in dealing with a blind crest safety is SPEED, have you? Can you STOP if the road does turn out to be blocked? That's far more important than trying to double-guess which side of the road to ride! 


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19/11/2010 at 12:30
FJSRiDER. wrote (see)
pingpongman wrote (see)

i have read that you should be right over to the left in case somebody is overtaking coming towards you. Any thoughts would be welcome.


What if there is a car parked at the side of the road just over the crest?

If it were me, I'd be in the middle of my lane ready to swerve to the right if someone appeared in front of me.

Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
19/11/2010 at 12:32

A blind crest is only really a vertical blind bend.


Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
19/11/2010 at 13:08

Blind crests also tend to pinch width-wise (typically old bridges) which doesn't help. The v-strom is handy as you can very easily stand on the pegs to get a better view, though I wouldn't especially recommend that as a standard way of dealing with crests.

23/11/2010 at 16:52
moving weight to back of seat and dropping down a gear

Have a mint. They're free
23/11/2010 at 20:23
I think lane position should be central as the road ahead is a bit of an unknown but the most important thing is that you slow down for it to a speed you have a chance of stopping in time for anything that might jump out at you.
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