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Have race rep 400s had their day?

End of the road for much-loved pocket rockets?

Posted: 29 July 2008
by Tim Skilton



WHEN 400cc sportsbikes hit Britain's shores in the early 1990s up and coming sportsbike newbies could hardly believe their luck. For the first time ever, new riders could get their eager hands on machines that looked and handled like a big-bore racebike, without frightening themselves silly or paying sky-high insurance premiums.

Up until then inexperienced riders, or those a bit short in the leg, were lumbered with either a low-slung custom or a sexless commuter. Neither were tempting fodder for riders that had their heart set on a cutting-edge sportsbike.

The source of these beautiful miniature race reps was Japan's home market, as the country's stringent transport laws made motorcycles over three years old almost redundant. But even though Japan had turned its back on these exquisite race replicas, it didn't take long for someone to realise there was a massive market for them in Britain. Japan's loss was to be our gain and the grey import bike scene was born.

The Importer

BAT Motorcycles in Kent were the first UK company to get involved in 400cc grey imports. Martin Davidson, a key figure in BAT's success, tells us how it all started:

"Japanese riders were restricted to 400cc because of the country's licensing laws. When the bikes were three years old they weren't wanted, so we bought them by the container load - most of them were in superb nick.

It was an exciting time because you didn't really know what you'd be getting in each shipment. There'd be 400s, two-stroke 250s and plenty of jaw-dropping exotica you just didn't normally see in Britain. The Japanese produce stunning bikes for their home market.

Did you sell many?

"It was an unbelievable time. We sold everything we could get our hands on. New riders were elated there was something on offer besides a CB500, a Bandit or a cruiser. It gave riders a tempting alternative if they couldn't afford to buy and insure a 600cc sportsbike. The ladies love them, too, because they could reach the floor and look cool. 400cc race replicas changed the British bike scene forever."

So why aren't they imported anymore?

"MSVA (Motorcycle Single Vehicle Approval) wrecked everything. Before it appeared in 2003 we would service the bikes, change the tyres, MOT them and they were ready for the showroom. The stringency of MSVA testing made importing 400s financial suicide. It's a bloody shame because there are no fresh bikes coming into the country."

The Salesman

Visordown spoke to Gary McKay at DK Motorcycles in Stoke on Trent, another grey import specialist that's been bringing bikes into the country for the last 20 years. Their showroom still has a fair number of grey imports but their stock is dwindling due to MSVA regulations.

Is there still a market for 400s?

"There's still a huge market for 400cc sportsbikes but the quality of what's left on the secondhand market is diminishing year-on-year now no one's importing fresh stuff from Japan. MSVA's ruined the show. I could sell a whole showroom full of them if I could find decent quality stock. Finding it's the problem."

Which 400s are most popular?

"Hondas mainly. VFRs, RVFs and baby-Blades - the CBR400RR. Kawasaki officially imported the ZX-R400, so there are quite a few decent examples around but that ceased production in 2003. On the whole it's difficult finding a decent low mileage 400 that hasn't been crashed, tracked or just plain neglected. Suzuki GSX-R400s and Yamaha FZR400RRs aren't so popular."

The Market

We did a national search on the most popular race replica 400s for sale. Honda VFRs were the most plentiful, RVFs were the most expensive and Suzuki GSX-Rs the least popular. It's worth noting the cheapest and most expensive CBR400s (£950 and £2395) were made in the same year:

Honda VFR400

45 available

Cheapest - 1990 model costing £995

Most expensive - 1992 model costing £2695

Honda RVF400

15 available

Cheapest - 1993 model costing £1995

Most expensive - 1998 model costing £3999

Honda CBR400RR

25 available

Cheapest - 1990 model costing £950

Most expensive - 1990 model costing £2395

Kawasaki ZX-R400

20 available

Cheapest - 1994 model costing £995

Most expensive - 2003 model costing £3250

Suzuki GSX-R400

9 available

Cheapest - 1991 model costing £995

Most expensive - 1992 model costing £1899

Yamaha FZ-R400RR

12 available

Cheapest - 1988 model costing £875

Most expensive - 1991 model costing £1999

The Buyer

Visordown spoke to Mark Oddi, a fireman from Oxford, who passed his test six years ago and started searching for a VFR400 straightaway:

"It looked at fifteen before I found the right one. I'd have probably bought sooner but my instructor came with me and insisted we weren't going to buy any shit. I learnt a hell of a lot in that time. Some had been crashed, others had lousy gearboxes and most had tatty bodywork. I almost gave up in the end. Eventually we found an absolute minter, but my joy wasn't to last long as I got swiped off it the following week when some idiot jumped a red light. That was over six years ago, so I'd imagine finding a decent one now would be a total nightmare."

The Bikes





Honda VFR400 NC30 - 1988 - 1994

There are various guises of VFR400 but we'd suggest looking for the NC30 model as it's the best looking of the bunch with endurance-style fairing and single sided swingarm - a mini RC30. The bikes were officially imported for a short time and UK versions are unrestricted - watch out for strangulated imports, as restoring them to full power can be an expensive process. In 1994 a new NC30 cost a whopping £6500 - over a grand more than a new CBR600 cost at the time.



Known vices:

Pre-1990 machines had inferior suspension

Regulator/rectifiers blow

Genuine Honda bodywork's expensive

Home servicing's as fiddly as it gets





Honda CBR400-RR 1988 - 1997

The Baby Blade is just what it says on the tin. Built like a Fireblade and looks like one too. Like the VFR400, there are various guises of CBR400. Our pick would either be the Gull Arm NC29 or if you can stretch to it an RRP onwards. Expect to pay £1500 tops for Gull Arm and £2500 for a late model RRV. The beauty of the CBR over the VFR or RVF, is its simplistic reliable 16-valve inline four engine. The low seat and slim profile of the Baby Blade makes the Honda an ideal bike for small riders.

Known vices:

Downpipes rot

Paint flakes off wheels (early models)

Cam rattles

Regulator/rectifier issues





Honda RVF400 NC35 1994 - 2000

The RVF took over from the NC30, mimicking its bigger brother, the RC45. It was much the same as an NC30 but with a modified frame, USD forks, retuned engine and 17-inch rear wheel (NC30 had an 18-incher). It was never an official UK import but soon became extremely desireable. Expect to pay over £4000 for a cherished, low mileage example. The RVF is probably the most finely crafted sports 400 ever built. Exquisite.

Know vices:

Many have been raced

Loads have been dropped

1st - 2nd gear gets clunky when worn

Fiddly to service

Spare parts expensive





Kawasaki ZX-R400 1995 - 2003

The little mean-greenie was an official UK import up until 2003, which means you should stand a better chance of finding a decent example. That said, production racers loved the Kawasaki's solid handling, rev-happy engine and genuine 135mph top speed - so check thoroughly to see if it's been on track.

Known vices:

Downpipes rust

Discs warp

Bodywork paint's thin

Wheel paint flakes on early models





Suzuki GSX-R400 1988 - 1998

A decent example of the mini-GSX-R is probably the hardest 400 race replica to find. The engine and running gear's pretty dependable, although electrical and build quality issues can effect older bikes. Not many were imported, plenty became hooligan tools and not many mint examples remain. The GSX-R still has a loyal following though (checkout gsxr400.com) and rightly so, as it's a brilliant bike when looked after.

Known vices:

Starting problems (a new Suzuki CDI's over £600)

Plenty have been crashed

Bodywork hard to source





Yamaha FZR400RR 1992 - 1996

The FZR400RR was imported from 1992, taking over from the single-seat 'P' version, which was imported for a single year in 1991. The Yamaha's 16-valve, liquid cooled engine produces 65bhp, with help from Yamaha's exhaust powervalve (EXUP). The FZR has a total dry weight of 165kg. In its last year on sale in the UK, Yamaha retailed the tiny 400 at a whopping £6749. No wonder they sold so few.

Know vices:

Burn oil

Grabby clutches

Seized brake callipers

Many crashed/raced

EXUP valves/cables corrode

So have they had their day?

Well, yes and no. The lack of fresh bikes from Japan means we're going to have to look after what decent examples are left in the UK. There's no doubting all the 400s we've listed here are cracking bikes, but if you want one you'll need to go to some effort to find a decent example. Just look at how few we found on sale, compared to the few hundred CBR600s that are available right now. If you're new to biking then take someone along with you when you're looking for a bike, especially something as fickle as a complicated Honda V-Four. Decent examples are getting hard to find and lousy ones are a money-pit waiting to happen.

There's not enough time to cover every model and every fact, so if you're still wondering 'what if?' then get surfing on one of the websites below. They're packed with really useful information gathered by passionate owners that know their bikes inside out.

Useful web addresses

www.gsxr400.com

www.fzr400.com

www.v-four.freeserve.co.uk

www.400greybike.co.uk

www.zxrworld.co.uk/zxr400oc/


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Discuss this story

never never never, perfection never bettered the RVF
Posted: 17/08/2007 20:24

Excellent article.

It's true that the market for 400's has greatly diminished in recent years, which in turn makes them either a bain to have them or a god send.
For example sourcing parts can be hard, my ZXR400's downpipes have rotten and a genuine set from Kawasaki are just shy of £500 and that is for another set of quick rotting downpipes. Even some of the well known manufactuers are not producing for the 400's any more e.g Scorpion, and I think Micron.

But even so with parts awkward to source if you have a minter they are desireable to the second hand market even with high mileage and I won't have lost too much money from when I bought it, again there lies another problem where even tho I know I should get another bike due to the bike being cramped and hurts my knees due my manly size. I just can't bring myself to let it go.

I think this could be a good thing for the Journo's at TWO to look in to. Could fill a few pages.
Posted: 18/08/2007 14:16

i dropped from a 6-400 as the 6 bored me, the RVF is awesome and its ability to limpet itself to the tarmac is phenomenal! The only thing i miss is the arm pulling mid range torque, but i'm happy to sacrifice that and would buy a new 4 over a 6 any day........esp if its a V4
Posted: 18/08/2007 15:47

I'd like another 400, top fun that bike it was.

nc30's are 20years old now, even the zxr400 is starting to get on a bit. Not to practical as a daily bike which needs to be maintained as you need to spend time sourcing parts.

Great bikes, just most are showing there age now. There was talks about an Aprillia 400 which looked interesting but thats all gone quiet.
Posted: 18/08/2007 16:31

wasnt the new aprillia going to be a single pot though.....
Posted: 18/08/2007 20:56

No I think it was going to use one of these 450 v-twins


Cagiva was going to make a 400/500 mito i think, that might of been a single?
Posted: 18/08/2007 21:09

bloodyhell 450 twin id buy it tomorrow i genuinely would!
Posted: 18/08/2007 21:12

Yeah there's still a market for a light, sweet handling, cheap sportsbike. The Kwak was the best. But where was the decents twins and two-strokes?
Posted: 18/08/2007 21:33

Kwak was best.

Go and wash out
Posted: 18/08/2007 21:35

Kernel wrote
Excellent article.

It's true that the market for 400's has greatly diminished in recent years, which in turn makes them either a bain to have them or a god send.
For example sourcing parts can be hard, my ZXR400's downpipes have rotten and a genuine set from Kawasaki are just shy of £500 and that is for another set of quick rotting downpipes. Even some of the well known manufactuers are not producing for the 400's any more e.g Scorpion, and I think Micron.

But even so with parts awkward to source if you have a minter they are desireable to the second hand market even with high mileage and I won't have lost too much money from when I bought it, again there lies another problem where even tho I know I should get another bike due to the bike being cramped and hurts my knees due my manly size. I just can't bring myself to let it go.

I think this could be a good thing for the Journo's at TWO to look in to. Could fill a few pages.


Gazelle exhausts made me a pukka, hand made stainless exhaust system for my 400/600 for just shy of £600. Might be worth a look if you want to keep the bike ;o) downpipes only were about £450 ish I think ;o)
Posted: 18/08/2007 23:47

cam chain on an NC29....LMAO....gear driven cams my friend.
Posted: 23/08/2007 10:19

You can still get close to the 400 race bike experience buying a new bike.

Get a really peaky 600 (r6, zx6r) and set a rev limiter at about 11k...

With the good handling and light weight, surely it'll be close to a 400...???
Posted: 23/08/2007 10:59

I'd love Kawasaki to import an official 2008 ZX4R. :smoke:

I cant imagine how much better it would be than the 1991 technology thats in my ZXR400 race bikes.......... would probably be two seconds a lap quicker straight out of the crate before the fettling started.

Dont bother about market demographics and all that bollox just build it and ship it - I'll buy one.
Posted: 23/08/2007 11:32

There will likely be a reinvention of smaller capacity sports bikes when they change the MotoGP classes and replace the 125cc and 250cc 2 strokes with 4 strokes.
Posted: 23/08/2007 11:45

SuperSonic wrote
You can still get close to the 400 race bike experience buying a new bike.

Get a really peaky 600 (r6, zx6r) and set a rev limiter at about 11k...

With the good handling and light weight, surely it'll be close to a 400...???

The '07 R6 feels nothing like my 400.
Posted: 23/08/2007 12:01

Kernel wrote
The '07 R6 feels nothing like my 400.


Are you missing the midrange of the 400??

Bit tongue-in-cheek mate - of course a 600 has more power everywhere than a 400 would.

But surely if someone wants the riding experience of a 15 year old 400 they could buy a modern lightweigh, fab-handling 600 and just not use all the power.... :burnout:
Posted: 23/08/2007 12:49

So Tim Skilton thinks CBR400's "known vice" is a cam chain rattle, hmmmm there's a man to trust, the CBR400 has gear driven cams.
Posted: 23/08/2007 18:31

Top article that, reminds me how much I still want a VFR400
Posted: 24/08/2007 17:36

SuperSonic wrote
You can still get close to the 400 race bike experience buying a new bike.

Get a really peaky 600 (r6, zx6r) and set a rev limiter at about 11k...

With the good handling and light weight, surely it'll be close to a 400...???


errrr no.
Posted: 24/08/2007 18:06

Great article! I have a little FZR400R exup, my second ever bike. I have had it for the best part of 11 years (ohmygod!) and it still makes me smile like a loon every time I'm out on it! The size is perfect for a little person like me, and the noise it makes at 13000+ is super!!
Totaly addictive!!

Posted: 25/08/2007 12:50

V4orce wrote
errrr no.


Can you expand?? I'm not trying to be a jerk, just genuinely interested in why it's so different??
Posted: 25/08/2007 15:01

i can only vouch for NC30s & 35s which i returned to, its the compactness of the bike coupled with the slightly smaller wheelbase that make the bikes so chuckable. Rear tyre section is also smaller so bike can literally be lobbed from left to right extremes in an instant. It doesn't have the pull of my 6FS in any way but id rather ride my RVF for the grin factor than the 6FS, the FS spends most of its life waiting for the winter to come round.........
Posted: 26/08/2007 07:32

SuperSonic wrote
Can you expand?? I'm not trying to be a jerk, just genuinely interested in why it's so different??


Riding a 400 is a mental thing.

It's ALL about using, and knowing that you're using every last drop of performance the bike will give. Thrashing the machine to the limits of the revs on every ride, using every last bit of your skills to maintain corner speed knowing for a fact that if you don't, you'll drop out of the power and have to go down 3 gears just to start accelerating again. Get it right and you genuinely feel like a god. You simply can't do that safely on the road on a 600 today because to genuinely use all the power* of even a 3 or 4 year old 600 you'd be going well over twice the speed of the majority of traffic.


*i.e. slamming the throttle open on corner exits.
Posted: 26/08/2007 20:09

V4 FTW!

Nothing compares, i came froma zxr400 to a gsxr600 then went back down to a NC30 they are that good.

NC30 is miles ahead of the ZXR imo too.
Posted: 30/08/2007 17:17

1x fzr400 with a fzr600motor in + nearly finished a thundercat one :smoke:

It just worked out really well for me as I'm a bit of a short arse, the engine swap is easy, and the fzr400 frame is as good as a 10 year newer bike (yamaha at least)

Newer stuff feels sharper and smother tho ;o) but mine are plenty quick and fun to ride. Cost less than a new bike would depretiate leaving the showroom too.
Posted: 30/08/2007 22:06

I disagree, i've had an NC30, a CBR 400, and a ZXR 400, and i'm all for the ZXR. Not as much torque as the V4, but thats part of it for me... Also the suspension set up is far superior on the ZXR...
Posted: 05/09/2007 10:38


http://www.visordown.com/members/images/143140/Gallery/bike_small.jpg


The girlies Cbr400rr mint and for sale!! You know you want to! Pm if any one is interested!!


Posted: 30/07/2008 18:15

I have had my RVF400RT for about 2 years, I'm heading off to the Manx GP on it. I have more fun riding that than I did my CBR600 (now sold to someone on the Isle of Man!). It sounds georgeous and is fun! Isn't that what biking is all about!
Posted: 01/08/2008 15:36

Re: the www.v-four.freeserve.co.uk link in this article.

Unfortunately my Honda V4 site was deleted

It now has a new home at http://www.simonevans.co.uk/v-four/

Cheers,

Simon.


Posted: 28/08/2009 13:49

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